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Sunday, December 17, 2017 5:34:27 PM

Loose Steering

3 months ago
#2741 Quote
I'd say it's a good 5-6 inches.
2 months ago
#2748 Quote
Nice looking car, great job.  The best method for adjusting the play out of the steering box is from under the steering box.  The green bible makes if very complicated.  I have a 51 and have successfully taken nearly all the play from mine.  I have a document written by one of the forum members that works like a charm.  I don't know how to attach the document so I will try to cut and paste it here.

Remove slop from steering wheel:
From Dan Hayes – on shoebox central forum

If you follow the manual it is going to lead you on a long drawn out process that can seem confusing and in my opinion makes things more complicated than they really need to be. 1st and foremost you need to determine where the slop in your steering is coming from. Obviously if your steering components or idler arm has slop, you need to address those issues first. So assuming all other components are tight and you have determined all (or at least most) of the slop is in the box (by having a helper wiggle the wheel while you watch underneath) and also assuming your box is in good condition with no broken components and is suffering from only normal wear due to 65 ish years of use. Be sure to follow the instructions to a T and dont take short cuts or skip steps and you should find yourself pleased with the results.

* Loosen the jamb nut on top of the steering box several turns and back off the flat blade screw (pin) a full turn.

* Get the car safely up in the air (A lift is ideal but jack stands under the frame will do the job)

* Loosen 3 of the 4 bolts on the bottom of the box a couple rounds.

* Mark 1 continuous reference line on the bottom of the box across the main housing and across the adjustable flange (the part that is clamped down by the bolts you just loosened in the previous step). I clean a spot off with brake cleaner and use a thin paint marker, anything will work just make sure you have a clear line marked for reference before you begin adjusting.

* Loosen the 4th bolt but only enough to allow the bottom of the housing to move.

* Carefully tap the bottom housing clockwise (laying under the car looking up at it). Only move it about a 1/16" at a time. This is where you dont want to get carried away, just watch your reference line and only move it a hair (An inch = a mile).

* Tighten 2 bolts just to hold it for now.

* Check the steering wheel to see if the slop is better or gone.

* If there is still slop, loosen bolts and give it another tap. You will likely have to do this several times to get the slop out.

* When you feel the play has been removed from the box, tighten all 4 bolts on the bottom and let the car down.

* Carefully run in the flat blade screw on top but only until you feel it touch the worm gear. DO NOT overtighten, (all your doing is making contact). Tighten the jam nut.

* Take it for a drive, if it still feels a little loose, repeat process and bump it another hair.

If the steering wheel feels catchy and tight and doesnt want to spin back when you are coming out of a turn, you have went too far and the box is adjusted too tight. In this case, repeat the process but this time just slightly bump the flange counter-clockwise to loosen it up a hair. (Remember an inch = a mile).

Hope this helps, I look forward to hearing your results.
Gary - Florida
2 months ago
#2749 Quote
Hello Gary from Florida!

Thanks for the nice comments on the car and for the awesome instructions.  I have gotten bits and pieces of that from others but non in so much detail.  As my entire front end is new (I rebuilt it with new componenents) I’m quite certain it’s the box.  I made the adjustment you described yesterday though I am sure I went to far as the steering wheel is stiff and seems to “catch”.  I ran out of time but have most of tomorrow dedicated to working on this issue.  I’ll keep you posted.

Thanks again, Ron (Wisconsin)
2 months ago
#3755 Quote
Update:  I followed the instructions kindly provided by Gary (Florida) and this has done the trick.  Obviously the ride is different than a newer model car and one would expect SOME slop in the steering...but not what I had.  I may have gone a tad too far as the steering is SLIGHTLY stiff but the steering wheel returns when coming out of a turn so it's probably not that far.  Next day I drive it I'll finess it some.

One modification to the instructions.  The instructions were to "tap" the box to move it.  After I made my reference line and loosening the bolts I used a small pipe wrench to move the box ever so slightly...this gave me more control over how far the box moved versus how much (or not much) I would be able to do with a small hammer.  

Thanks again for posting the instructions!
one month ago
#3756 Quote
Ron, what year is the pickup in the picture that you posted? Looks to be a 69-71 from the grill.
Greg
one month ago
#3757 Quote
Greg,
That’s my 66 Ford F100.  I rebult that before the coupe project.  We are in for some beautiful weather today so I think I’m going to take each of them for a short drive!
Ron
one month ago
#3758 Quote
I have noticed that a lot of people own more than one classic, I too have a truck. I have a 1970 GMC, I try to drive each as much as possible.
Greg
one month ago
#3759 Quote
Greg,

That’s cool.  I’ve always liked the look of the 70’s GMC trucks.  I try to drive both my Fords as much as I can; somedays it’s a tossup of “Do I go ride one of the Harleys?” or “Do I take the Ford out?”. I usually solve this by riding a Harley over to the Ford Annex (storage unit), getting one of the Fords, running my errands (or as my girlfriend did yesterday in her 86 Toyota convertible just go out looking for a gas station), then returning to the Annex to get the bike and take the long way home.  I really need to retire from this airline job (2nd career) so I have more time for this stuff!  Had the coupe out the other day and was content with how the steering works now...thanks again for the help on that!

Ron
one month ago
#3760 Quote
Its hard to get all our vehicles out on a regular basic, we have five of our own and my school system truck that I keep at home. One good thing is we never need a rental car, we just drive something else.
Greg
one month ago
#3761 Quote
We’re kinda in the same boat. I actually keep one of my cars at the airport employee lot at all times...and usually when I’m work I have cars at both airports.  Helps with commuting. Jane hogs up the garage with her two cars. Oh well, everything in it’s place I guess!